Ellis Paul Discussion

Hey y'all--
We are creating this Forum to allow a place to discuss promotional activity for fans of my music.

Here's a way to get empowered to spread the word for the Essentials album.

The web is probably the most important way to spread non commercial music around the world. You can help by doing the following with Essentials, then come back here and let people know where they can chime in.

1) OTHER DISCUSSION SITES FOR ACOUSTIC SONGWRITERS, -- there are numerous discussion groups around the web regarding songwriters. Myspace, aol, THE FOLK LIST, THE DJ LIST, ETC all have chat places on this kind of music. Please leave reviews, and let us know when you find a place.

2) SONGWRITER'S DISCUSSION BOARDS... like mineded artists like Neil Young, Bob Dyaln, John Gorka, Bill Morrissey, Patty Griiffin, Dar williams, Jonatha Brooke, Richard Shindell, all your favorite songwriters have discussion boards, you an drop a line there, or start a discussion thread about why the music matters. Pick your favorites and run with it, and come back an tell us where you have been. So others can comment on your thread, Let us know where you've posted!

3) COMMERCIAL MUSIC SITES ON THE WEB...
Amazon.cbabyom, cd , MTV.com, CMT.com, etc., commercial sites that sell music or promote muscians have places to leave reviews, go find them, and let us know where you've posted!

4) Banners... I have no idea how to set these up so fans could post them on their sites, does anyone know how to make one? We could post here for those that wanted to use it... Let me know...

Start a myspace page and use your favorite song as the soundtrack to your site.


Let us know what you have done out on the net, provide us with links to where you've been.

and thanks for helping out!
Ellis

Ellis wrote:Here's a way to get empowered to spread the word for the Essentials album.

2) SONGWRITER'S DISCUSSION BOARDS... like mineded artists like Neil Young, Bob Dyaln, John Gorka, Bill Morrissey, Patty Griiffin, Dar williams, Jonatha Brooke, Richard Shindell, all your favorite songwriters have discussion boards, you an drop a line there, or start a discussion thread about why the music matters. Pick your favorites and run with it, and come back an tell us where you have been. So others can comment on your thread, Let us know where you've posted!

Even though you neglected to mention your neighbors Ellis, here you go: EDHEAD CENTRAL

Although that's a REALLY QUIET board, so I don't know how much good it's going to do; I mean they have only a little more than a thousand articles versus close to three and a half thousand here, but it's a something.

Folks,

There's an Ellis Paul banner up on my MySpace that you're welcome to use anywhere you want. There's a link there for the code you'll need to copy and paste.

KarenZ's MySpace

KarenZ

The code for the banner/link for the EP myspace group is in the Clarity board under the topic "Eureka."

Ellis,

Mark Erelli has a nice nod to Ellis Paul Essentials on his web site. That's one place we don't have to worry about.

Mark Erelli Cover Alert

KarenZ

Folks,

I just left a review of Ellis Paul Essentials at Amazon.com - it's only one of two there. Please take a few minutes to leave a review and report back as Ellis suggested. I'm sure he would appreciate the feedback.

Here's a link to the Amazon.com listing:

Ellis Paul Essentials on Amazon.com

KarenZ

Folks,

I'm actually feeling a little discouraged by the lack of response in this thread. I was certain a few of you would report back as Ellis suggested. Is it the word "review" that is scaring you? If so, is "comments" easier to handle? Could a few of you please simply rate the CD and post a two sentence comment on Amazon? (I said please.) There's still only two reviews there. The man is so generous with his time and is incredibly giving (guest passes, CD giveaways, etc.) Please take a few minutes to give back via this small grassroots effort.

KarenZ

This was the message from Amazon:

In general, reviews are posted on our site within one day, but occasionally it takes longer.

But it posted right away. I think for me the trepedation was related to how public that site is. But I took the plunge.

Sue Ellen

Laura, Sue Ellen,

You two have helped restore my faith in (wo)man this evening.

KarenZ

That's the way to get things hoppin'!! I'm trying to repost the link, so the next person can go straight to the site and post a review; please do the same when you reply.

Ellis Paul Essentials on Amazon.com

Sue Ellen

OK....so maybe I need to turn this into the Battle of the Sexes. The woman are ahead 3-to-1.

Paddy? PotatoPicker? PeteM? BillE? IllinoisBill?

[insert snicker emoticon here]

KarenZ

Karen.....thanks for the nudge...and the smile ya brought to my face just now. Had a rough day today and troubles had just begun to subside when I saw this Battle Of The Sexes brewing....

I have yet to order my copy of Essentials....

Not that I need to.....I can still come thru for the cause based on what I know about the songs that make up Ellis Paul Essentials.


I still think I'll hold off on a review until I have it in house.

Note to self.......Gotta Get Gone...gotta get going.. hey hey the world.....


Til then...watch my back fellas......

I've posted a message on Mark Erelli's discussion board following through on the 'cover alert' he himself posted about 'The Only Way' being featured on 'Essentials'

Jela

And I've added a review on Amazon

[url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product//B000ICLSTM/ref=cm_rv_thx_view/102-1945649-8457754[url]Ellis Paul on Amazon

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Jela

Thanks Jela for the Amazon post and the post on the Mark Erelli board. That's wonderful.

RE: Amazon - Girls ahead 4-to-1......actually 4-to-0 since the 1 isn't a member of this forum.

KarenZ

Seeing as I'm a Barnes and Noble girl, I just posted a review over there!

Ellis Paul Essentials on Barnes&Noble.com

OK, I did it too.
I think that makes it 5:0 women of the forum....

(sorry, I haven't figured out how to add that neat url link)

Wendy,

First of all - thanks for submitting a review!

To post a URL:

1. Click the URL icon on the code bar (the code bar icons are just below the subject line box) to "open" the code.
2. Type your URL (make sure to include the http://)
3. Click on the URL icon a second time to "close" the code.

Or you can type the code yourself ([url] to open and [/url] to close) the code. It's really quite simple. Honest.

Karen

Cmon, boys......

We're up for the challenge, right?

Not a chance these girls will out review us, right?

Okay...huddle up....listen......if ya go there......it's a great d-i-s-c.

Not a desert island d-i-s-k. ~~~ a desert island disc.

Now let's go!!!

Paddy,

According to Merriam-Webster Online disc is a variant of disk. I believe either is acceptable. Feel free to use either when you write your review.

KarenZ

I stand corrected.

Who was it that sang? : Man smart.........Woman smarter.

Touche.

I shall never, ever, challenge an information specialist again.

MonicaR,

Thanks for the heads-up about Barnes & Noble. I added the B&N link to your post and submitted a review there myself as well! (It says it may take up to 3 days for reviews to appear so right now there's still zero reviews viewable.)

Here's the link folks:

Ellis Paul Essentials on Barnes&Noble.com

KarenZ

KarenZ wrote:RE: Amazon - Girls ahead 4-to-1......actually 4-to-0 since the 1 isn't a member of this forum.

KarenZ

Are you sure ?

Anyway, the boys are on the scoreboard. I'd also like to point out that at least one of the boys has been buying the CD through Amazon, hoping to give it a nudge in the Amazon charts. I like CD Freedom just fine; I am just hoping to see Ellis's CD make the Amazon charts at some point - the retrospective makes a great Christmas gift idea !

Am I sure what? That you're a boy? No, I'm not sure. I mean...I don't have any actual proof.....but I'll take your word for it and give the boys one point.


KarenZ

KarenZ wrote:Am I sure what? That you're a boy? No, I'm not sure. I mean...I don't have any actual proof.....but I'll take your word for it and give the boys one point.


KarenZ

You're too funny........

Are you sure that John Shrimpton hasn't been around..... ?

In the Battle of the Sexes recap, counting both Amazon and Barnes&Noble reviews of the awesome Ellis Paul Essentials the score is:

Ladies 9
Gents 1.

Just thought I'd let you all know. Ladies, let's continue to fight the good fight.

KarenZ

I tried to post a review at B&N, but it hasn't shown up yet; the amazon one did right away. Does it take a bit for it to post, or did I do something wrong?

SE

Sue Ellen,

Mine hasn't shown up either. We haven't done anything wrong - it said to allow up to 3 days for reviews to appear. MonicaR's is there though...so ours will probably appear tomorrow.

KarenZ

KarenZ wrote:In the Battle of the Sexes recap, counting both Amazon and Barnes&Noble reviews of the awesome Ellis Paul Essentials the score is:

Ladies 9
Gents 1.

Just thought I'd let you all know. Ladies, let's continue to fight the good fight.

KarenZ

I fear I am at a slight disadvantage here, especially when y'all get to double-count - looks like I am going to have to be a little more "inventive"....

Whaddya mean double count??? A review is a review!

Karenz

Jeff,

Nice review you posted on Amazon! Sadly, none of your counterparts of the male persuasion have shown up (on either Amazon or Barnes&Noble) to bolster the men's score.

The score remains:

Ladies 9
Gents 1

Ladies, shall we continue to blow the gents out of the water? C'mon.....just a sentence or two....

Ellis Paul Essentials on Amazon.com

KarenZ

Given that I am (or at least my gender is) probably out-numbered on the board by 4 or 5 to 1 , by the end of the day I suspect I won't be doing badly

By the way, it is now 9 to 2.....

Well, there is more than one man on this board who is an active and regular participant, so...those guys should hop to it and show their support for Ellis's music.

Sue Ellen

It took a day for my review to show up on the B&N site.


[url=http://music.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?ean=11671125022&pwb=1&z=y]Ellis Paul Essentials on Barnes&Noble.com
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[url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product//B000ICLSTM/ref=cm_rv_thx_view/104-5150293-5010346]Ellis Paul Essentials on Amazon.com
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Just click the link to review.

Sue Ellen

You are absolutely right Sue Ellen - but if I look at the top 20 posters there are I think 4 (or maybe 5) guys listed. And everyone knows that one good woman is worth 2 or 3 men to begin with So we've got some heavy work to do !

My review still hasn't appeared on the Barnes&Noble site. Hey....should we start on Borders?

KarenZ

Sounds good, and is there a way to post a review on cdfreedom? I looked but didn't see an avenue...maybe we should do Starbucks too.

SE

Here's the post for Borders, but a quick glance did not reveal a place to review:

Ellis Paul Essentials at Borders

and as a reminder:

[url=http://music.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?ean=11671125022&pwb=1&z=y]Ellis Paul Essentials on Barnes&Noble.com
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[url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product//B000ICLSTM/ref=cm_rv_thx_view/104-5150293-5010346]Ellis Paul Essentials on Amazon.com
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Thanks for checking on Borders Sue Ellen. Surprising that there's no place to post a review...

KarenZ

Borders and Waldenbooks are both tied in with Amazon, and end up sharing their reviews....... I couldn't find another spot to post a "Borders-specific" review. Also could not find one on CD Freedom.

Working on a couple of other ideas to get my count, I mean the male count, a little higher.....

OK.....I throw myself on the mercy of the board when I confess that I have yet to buy Essentials. Like Paddy suggested, I'm sure I could bluff my way through by commenting on the songs that remained the same from the original recordings, but that seems wrong. Perhaps I'll venture out on a nasty, torrentially rainy night to finally purchase the disc, or perhaps even the disk! And then one more of the guys will be represented at Amazon!

Pete

Awesome Jeff! See? I knew our collective brains could come up with ideas!

I just noticed that the All Music Guide entry for Ellis Paul is woefully outdated. Do we have a volunteer willing to submit some updates for the discography there?

Here's the link. At the bottom of the page you have to click where it says Corrections to this entry? to make corrections/additions.

All Music Guide entry for Ellis Paul

KarenZ

PeteM wrote:OK.....I throw myself on the mercy of the board when I confess that I have yet to buy Essentials. Like Paddy suggested, I'm sure I could bluff my way through by commenting on the songs that remained the same from the original recordings, but that seems wrong. Perhaps I'll venture out on a nasty, torrentially rainy night to finally purchase the disc, or perhaps even the disk! And then one more of the guys will be represented at Amazon!

Pete

Pete - Essentials is wonderfully inexpensive at Amazon - and buying it there will give it a kick up on the Amazon sales ticker..... which could help as well.

I posted my review at amazon.com....and I meant every word...



Shari

Ooooh Shari! Wonderful review!

OK folks.....if we can get one more review on Amazon, we'll have a nice round number of TEN!

Can I get a witness?

KarenZ

I'm sensing a bit of rabbit and the hare here...or is it turtle and the hare???

Whatever it is...we're behind guys....let's head 'em and up move 'em out.

Well, it was either the Texas cattle drive reference or this:

C'mon, guys....let's act like HEINZ and ketchup!!!

So let us know when and where you post.

Sue Ellen

Folks,

Yay! Patti posted a review on Amazon so the score is now:

Ladies 10
Gents 1

I don't know Jeff.....none of your counterparts are coming to your rescue...not sure what it will take to get them to support our raison d'etre.

KarenZ